After Action Report 24/05/2015

Type: Nightgame sarge

Situation: Central London club

Results: About 8 sets opened, no closes

What went well:

  • A reasonable number of sets opened
  • Very little AA
  • Opening hotter girls than in the past

What went badly:

  • Very poor success at hooking sets
  • Weak approaches
  • Didn’t read up on action points before going with a plan to work on something specific
  • My vibe was too serious

Action points:

  • Stronger approaches: Get right in front of girls, not coming in from the side so much. Focus on good eye contact, loud voice and strong body language going in
  • Work on my vibe. I used to have a fun loving, “This club is my playground” vibe that would generate IOIs. That is gone.
  • Still need to open more sets, discount too many sets for some reason, mainly only opening girls who walked by me. This is OK earlier in the night, but once I’ve warmed up I really need to be walking up to groups of girls and opening.
  • Realised my look needs work. I’ve gradually got smarter and smarter to the point I look too smart (wearing a tie). It’s a very k selected look. Although I like it, if I want to get girls who are in the market for casual sex, I need a more R selected look. Will be buying clothes in the coming months to achieve that. Also going to go from a full beard to just bad boy style stubble. It will make me look younger and more R selected.

Funniest set of the night, with a blonde HB8 Essex Girl:

Me (after opening and getting her attention): What’s your name?

Her: Mercedes

Me: Is that your stripper name?

Her: No!? It’s my first name. Like the car.

It ended there.

My Game Todo List

Haven’t been actively sarging for the past 10 days due to having a Russian girl staying with me (lay report coming soon). Instead I’ve spent some time coming up with a todo list to help improve my game. This is important to stop me just continually doing the same things I’ve always done and in so doing get the same results. This todo list is based on the actions section on the after action reports I’ve been doing recently.

  • Come up with a strategy for ‘maybe’ girls in a club setting. This will include some ideas on conversational material to use as filler soon after first opening when they aren’t comfortable with isolation / escalation very early on. The aim is to have a way to hang on in there with these type of girls rather than just ejecting when they aren’t all over me from the start (‘yes’ girls), so I can try escalating again later.
  • Look into the availability of getting voice projection coaching somewhere in London.
  • Think about how to craft questions that are more open ended during daygame and dates, with the end goal being to lead girls towards subjects which are increasingly emotionally significant to them.
  • Get some voice recording equipment to record all daygame sets and possibly dates. I have heard some recordings of my daygame sets that my coach has made. They are very useful as you can instantly pick up on so many mistakes and see many possible improvements.
  • Create a plan for dates, using the date material from Dayame Mastery. Will focus on emotional progression and escalation, as well as how I portray myself on the date.
  • Think about how I can better maintain a good frame on the date. Work out ways to ‘lean back’ both physically and metaphorically so I can act a bit more like the prize. This will have to be reconciled with the need for me as the man to also take the date forward and escalate, but doing so in way which does not compromise my desired frame.

After Action Report 25/04/2015 (2)

Type: Nightgame sarge

Situation: Large meat market club, bit of a cockfest

Results: 8/9 sets opened, 1 kiss close

What went well:

  • Reasonable number of approaches given how much of a cockfest it was
  • Was confident in most of my approaches

What went badly:

  • One 2 set hooked, but it was a ‘maybe’ set. The girl didn’t give me huge IOIs but wasn’t disinterested either, so I bailed. These sets are hard in a cub in full swing because it’s loud and everyone is dancing. This makes it hard to just stand there chatting. Need to move things forward and get physical quickly, which probably won’t work on maybe girls. Need a strategy to handle this.
  • The girl I K closed got dragged off by her friend, and I didn’t go for it again when I saw her latter. Lacking persistence here. In the past I’d go back later, maybe multiple times until I managed to isolate some how and either got her home or her number. Thing is she was the least attractive girl I approached (only a 6) so I couldn’t really be bothered.
  • Got a fair few quick blow outs. I’m not sure if these are no girls or I need to be more full on RSD style in my approaches. This isn’t really my style, I don’t know how easily I could switch to that, it’s very frat boy. Would love to take an RSD bootcamp to find out, but it’s $2000.
  • Conversation skills could be better early in sets. A bit more teasing / push to spike attraction.
  • I really need to project my voice more in clubs.

Action points:

  • Work out how best to move ‘maybe’ sets forward. Will probably involve a bit of push to ramp up attraction, followed by giving her an IOI to make it clearer I’m hitting on her, the hope being that she either gives me a red light (I eject), and amber light (I take a step back and try again later, green light (escalate or isolate).
  • Come up with some better conversational material / routines to act as filler between attempts to move sets forward. This will help me hang in there with maybe sets for longer.
  • Decide if I actually want a girl or not, and if so pursue vigorously for the SNL, or settle with the number. If she’s a 6 I need to make a snap judgement on whether or not I want to fuck her, and run with it.
  • Look into voice projection coaching. I think someone on the LSS offers this. This is a great investment in myself which I think goes beyond just club game.

After Action Report 25/04/2015 (1)

Type: Daygame sarge

Situation: Oxford Street, baby!

Results: 4 sets opened, 1 number close

What went well:

  • Getting much better with eye contact on opening now. Almost to the point where they are so transfixed that when they tell me they have to go they almost have to tear themselves away.
  • Much more confident when I do open

What went badly:

  • Only opened 4 sets, could have been closer to 10 in the time I was out
  • Spoke too much in the first set where I number closed. She wasn’t much of a talker, and I wanted to get her to talk more to invest.
  • One of my opens was really weak as it was logistically awkward (happens sometimes of Oxford Street)
  • Getting into a full and flowing conversation in the vibing phase is sometimes hard for me, and I end up firing out questions. Need to learn to thread conversations better. Goes hand in hand with above.
  • Assumption stacking a bit weak

Action points:

  • Really need to open about twice as often. This is my long term sticking point.
  • Need to get better at skilfully extracting information and emotions from a girl and weaving a flowing conversation around these responses. May come up with some practice exercises.

After Action Report 22/04/2015

Type: Day 2

Situation: Met a girl in a club 10 days ago, HB8. Isolated, kiss closed, got her number. After that she started playing hard to get so I left her to it and texted the next day. We went to a couple of bars for drinks.

Results: Nothing (I’d already K closed, doing it again doesn’t count)

What went well:

  • Improved body language since last date
  • Improved vocal tonality since last date
  • Conversation flowed easily, some good teasing

What went badly:

  • Got drunk
  • Spent too much money on cocktails
  • I was thrown by the fact she recoiled from my kiss attempt an hour in. Usually I’d be fine with this, but it threw me as it was in contrast to her making out with me passionately in the club. You can’t just start where you left off in the club. Due to this I feel like I spent the rest of the date chasing for makeouts. When I did get them she felt stiff, like she wasn’t into it, and instead of backing off I pushed forward, chasing the passion out of validation rather than lust. 60 years of challenge says there’s a big difference between escalating out of lust and out of a need to see if the  girl likes you (and they can sense this). I feel I really put the girl off by doing this.
  • The conversation was quite superficial, lacking the emotional content and connection that aids seduction

Action points:

  • Don’t drink so much on dates. This will save money and allow for better game
  • Have a conversational plan for a date that leads to more emotional content, and better setting up the correct male female polarity between us
  • Focus more on the frame of being the prize rather than chaser (some chasing is unavoidable), and protect the frame / my value over and above make outs and trying to move the girl forward.

After Action Report 19/04/2015

Type: Day 2

Situation: First date with a busty HB8 I had street stopped the previous week. The stop had been quick as she ended the interaction early, but I managed to get her number. She ignored me the first time I asked her out over text, but after some brief flirting came for the day 2. We went for tea in a coffee shop.

Results: Nothing

What went well:

  • Nothing. I got a hot girl out on a date, but that happened before the date.

What went badly:

  • Wasn’t particularly warm and welcoming when she first showed up. Could have smiled more and made better eye contact.
  • I think my voice was too quiet
  • Spoke and moved too quickly
  • Poor body language when sat down. Tried to do the slightly aloof leaning back body language Krauser recommends on this date, but just ended up awkwardly slouching.
  • Approval seeking and being apologetic. She didn’t like a comment I made about the coffee shop being a bit pokey (not enough space between the tables for my introverted liking). She really didn’t like it for some reason. This shouldn’t phase me but it did. It made me stutter a bit and try and explain myself.
  • In-congruent use of game material. Tried to make the comment I read in Day Game Mastery about seeing if she can drink tea like a proper English lady. This tease wasn’t in keeping with the vibe we had at that point. Plus she was half English and has lived her for years and so it didn’t really make sense. Using routines where they don’t fit is a classic noob mistake. She didn’t like it and again I got flustered and did the approval seeking
  • Didn’t really listen much to what she said about herself, as I had got too in my head at that point
  • I let her guide the conversation too much. We started talking about family and places we’d travelled too much (I’m not well travelled so this is bad for me). It was a bit pedestrian. I feel the conversation should be quite light and positive at this point, filed with casual observations about the things I like, and finding out what she likes.

Action points:

  • Greet girls warmly at the begining of a day 2. Take time for a little chit chat before walking to the date location. Have some conversation prepared for this stage. She needs to feel comfortable and like things are flowing.
  • Focus on speaking louder
  • Slow all of my speech and actions down
  • Have strong body language
  • Don’t get flustered if she responds negatively to something. Brush it off, move on

After Action Report 18/04/2015

Type: Night game sarge (club)

Situation: Night game in a large club that turned out to be a 75% male cockfest.

Results: Nothing from 5 approaches

What went well:

  • My later approaches were confident. Room for improvement, but I felt quite bold and masculine in the way I approached.

What went badly:

  • Could have done more approaches to build a better vibe, but to be fair it was a cockfest.
  • Gave up to early on one set because when I was holding her hand it went stiff (her hand not my cock), showing me that she wasn’t into it. Despite this, as I was about to leave she asked me a question, implying that the set had possibly hooked, but I answered quickly and left.
  • Failed to approach a girl who IOI’d me. To be fair I don’t think she was hot enough.
  • Failed to escalate a girl who I had very strong initial interest from. Should have mixed some taking in with the escalation. I used to be very good at dance floor escalation (there’s an art to doing it well), but my skills have atrophied. I think bad breath actually cost me this one. She said I smelled like I had just eaten a McDonald’s, then left me soon after. I have gum disease, and haven’t visited the dentist in a while, this could be why.

Action points:

  • Book hygenist on Monday to get cleaned under my gums
  • Approach more frequently
  • Don’t give up on sets that aren’t immediately all over me

After Action Reports

In an effort to ‘debug’ my game I am going to be writing After Action Reports on all my dates and sarges. These will be a bit like very brief, short hand versions of field reports. Field reports tend to be time consuming and dull to type out, so I’ll end up never doing them. The After Actions will cut to the chase and just focus on the key points which will help me improve. This means they probably won’t be that readable to you guys. That’s okay as they’re meant mainly for me. By typing them out and posting them online I’ll mentally process them more deeply. Feel free to skip them.

See all After Action Reports

An Example of My Tinder Game

This is a Tinder interaction I had a year ago.


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Whenever I look back on any of my game from more than 6 months ago, I always cringe a little. This is no exception.

I started off well. It was a pretty standard push pull opener. Looks like a compliment at first, but then I hit her with the tease. It makes a girl sit up and take notice of you. A tease on it’s own (push) would make you an asshole. The compliment on it’s own (pull) makes just another fawning guy. Combine the two and get the desired result.

There’s too much humour in there for my liking, some of it’s also terrible (the cross dressing line). Girls do like some humour, this is undeniable. It gives them positive emotions, and points to a man’s good social skills. Despite this the average man overestimates the importance of humour in a pickup, and as a consequence often over uses it. Humour is fun, but it isn’t seductive. It’s good to sprinkle in the laughs here and there, but in order to reliably seduce women you need to change gears to sprinkle in some more serious content and some sexuality. This allows the girl to see you as well rounded (or three dimensional as Tom Torero describes it). Excessive humour can also push you into the entertainer / dancing monkey box. This is a position of low value and should be avoided.

I went for the number fairly quickly. On Tinder you need to go for the number quite fast. The timing of this is not based on a certain number of messages, but rather once she has hooked and seems to be responding well. Tinder will supply her with an unlimited supply of men, plus she may not check the app that often. These things combined mean that you need to move to whatsapp asap to avoid being forgotten. You can see she is responding well almost immediately by going along with my jokes. It’s clear she’s hooked well more or less from the beginning, so there isn’t actually much game required. I actually made a mistake here of not replying fast enough. At one point I don’t reply till the next morning, then take about another day to respond to her reply. As you can see from looking at the dates / times, the whole interaction actually spans almost 4 days. I could easily have lost her in that time, and so it would have been better to do it in one long unbroken interaction.

After some whatsapp back and forth we set up a date that she cancelled. She went a bit cold on me after that, so I pulled back. There was radio silence for about a week. As much as I want to push for a date I don’t want to come across as needy. I pinged her and got a lukewarm reply. She seemed hesitant about meeting so I ran some comfort. At this point she knew very little about me, and that will put many girls off meeting you. Comfort in the form of some getting to know you type chat solved that, and I met her in bar near Marble Arch on a Friday night after work.

She turned up looking like her picture (phew). Fairly pretty face. Slightly above average, but not exceptional. Nice slim body. Pleasant, but without show stopping features like a big round ass or huge tits. A solid 7. And tall. Taller than me. She was over 5ft10 compared to my 5ft9, almost 6ft in her mini heels. I do like tall girls, but only really ever lay them from online dating, as I discount cold approaching them when out sarging. Since I shagged at least 3 girls taller than me last year I think this is a limiting belief I need to put a stop to.

We grab a sofa and I do most the talking. She seems shy. I try and kiss her within the first hour, and she massively recoils. Every physical or verbal escalation attempt on my part was met with disdain from her. Despite this something tells me I can lay her that night. I think it was a combination of my view of Tinder as being for fast lays and the fact that her disdain for my escalation attempts were so over the top they were almost pantomime. The lady dost protest too much. Two hours in she finally accepts my kiss close attempt, after denying the first four. When I smell sex there are no limits to my persistence, and I feel no sting from getting rejected multiple times when going for the kiss.

I ask her to come back to mine. She says “Not yet”. This means she’s already decided to fuck me (unless I do something dumb), so it’s just a case of running down the  clock for another couple of hours. I decided to take her to another bar that’s 20 minutes walk away, as the time dilation effect of a bounce will aid me in turning the not yet into a yes.

We have drinks on a balcony bar overlooking Regent Street. I remove the sexuality and focus on comfort and rapport. I’ve already massively established myself as a sexual threat, so there’s no need to work that angle any more. I just want her to feel emotionally a little bit closer to me now. Like we’re bonding over something. She needs to feel like we get on well and it’s not just a quick ‘any vagina will do’ pump and dump. We talk about things we like and our opinions till I find something we can bond over. I can’t remember what it was, but it was something to do with a way people often act that we both thought was stupid. We made fun of the rest of the world like it was us versus them. With the comfort box ticked and the clock run down we leave the bar.

I said we were getting a cab and she gave no resistance. There was no LMR when I got her home. I fucked her once in the evening then again in the morning. It was odd though. I remember not being that into it. This was despite her being attractive with a nice body. If I fucked her now I’d put way more effort in, and also would have tried to see her again. I think it’s because I slept with 22 women last year, and she was the 3rd new girl I’d slept with in as many weeks. Sex had just lost so much value to me. It’s a hard life being a player.