Sigma Experiments: Kratom – Week 1

My Kratom experiment began this week, so I’m here to inform you of the results. In case you’re too lazy to click the link to the introduction, here’s a summary. Kratom is a herb which when consumed is supposed to reduce anxiety and give the user a feeling of euphoria. I am using it primarily to try and decrease approach anxiety, and as a secondary goal to improve the vibe I have whilst sarging.

2nd June – Daygame

I took 4g of Borneo Green Vein from Herbal Eye, mixed with tea, about 45 minutes before sarging. There’s no way to sugar coat it. This stuff tastes like shit. If you’ve ever had tea made with loose leaves instead of a teabag, and accidentally swallowed some of the tea, it’s like that. I just had to gulp it down fast then wash my mouth out with water. I experienced some light-headedness soon after taking it, but it subsided after 15 minutes, and it wasn’t severe.

Soon after drinking the concoction I headed to the daygame Mecca with the goal of doing 3 sets. I had been trying for the previous 2 weeks to get back into daygame, but in that time had only opened 2 sets, so if I could open 3 sets after work I’d be very happy.

I naturally have a very sullen vibe. I’m a born worrier. On this day I was worried because I’d handed my notice in at work the week before, and now my soon to be new employers hadn’t got an amended contract to me yet. Today this worry was reduced to background noise and I focused on sarging.

Although I wasn’t skipping along Oxford Street whilst whistling “Is this the way to Amarillo”, I’d say my vibe was definitely upbeat, especially compared to normal daygame sessions. What you do have to bear in mind is that for me a daygame session usually consists of walking the streets of London with feelings of extreme anxiety at the thought of going direct on a girl during the day, until such time as my shame at letting my fear rule me becomes greater than my anxiety, causing me to finally open a set. Today this anxiety wasn’t there.

One thing I noticed is that I was much more blatant at eyeing up women than I usually am. Considering I’m not usually that subtle that’s saying something.

After a quick visit to an electronics store I opened the very first girl I saw that caught my eye. My usual inner voice of self doubt (what are you going to say to her? What if people see? What if she thinks it’s weird?) was still there, but this time another voice just said, “Ah, whatever. It’ll be fine”. I got a weak hook. My vibe was good, my playfulness was there. My trouble was that I talked too much, filling every possible silence with words. This is a classic daygame mistake, and I am not well practised enough not to make it. The Kratom is only supposed to help with AA and general vibe, not fine tune my game (would be nice though!).

I did another couple of sets. The third one hooked well. Her energy was great in a cute feminine way. I don’t know if it was the herb or it was me feeding off the girls energy, but my conversation was pretty on point. A lot more emotionally evocative than it usually is, something I’ve wanted to achieve for a while. My only mistake was not really investing her that thoroughly. Again, a game technicality that Kratom can’t help with. She was in a long distance relationship with her uni boyfriend, but still gave me her number saying it’s nice to meet new people. I told her I understood she had a boyfriend, but if we went for a drink I’d definitely be there to chat her up. She later replied to my first text then subsequently flaked.

I opened all three sets in under an hour, which for me is a great pace. All in all I was pleased with the outcome. Although I have certainly done 3 sets in a session before, compared to my recent attempts at daygame this went really well. I won’t lie and say I didn’t pussy out of any sets. There were some high 8s / 9s that I failed to open. My conclusion is that one of two things were going on here. Either I was getting a placebo effect, or I was getting a moderate but noticeable decrease in AA and increase in vibe.

4th of June – Daygame

5g Red Riau from Same as before. Drank it down then off to daygame. Slightly slower going today because I met with a friend who was already out sarging and we spent a lot of time chatting. Reduced AA but vibe not as good as the previous session. Opened 3 sets in 75 minutes but none of them hooked. In all cases my approach was a bit awkward. This was caused by having to come in at a funny angle, as opposed to getting in front of them.

5th June – Social networking group meetup at upscale private members club in Mayfair

4g Super Indo Kratom – I wasn’t primarily concerned with sarging, at this event as the venue wasn’t the best for cold approach (not loads of people, mainly big mixed groups). I wanted to see the effect Kratom would have on my socialising. I drank it down before I left. Unlike the two previous times I was drinking after taking the Kratom this time.

I have a tendency to go to these events and not really talk to anyone unless they talk to me first. This time it was different. I did mingle and open groups.

Then something bad happened. The room we were in was an open aired smoking room. It was already a hot night, and there was a really effective array of heaters on the top of the walls and I started to over heat. It got to the point where I felt nauseous and faint so I had to sit in another room on my own for 30 minutes to recover. I don’t know if this was the heat, my low car diet, or the Kratom. Maybe a mix of all three. Will have to watch for this side effect next time I use this strain.

There were few opportunities for cold approach. There was one girl in a big mixed group. She looked really glamorous and wore a dress the neckline of which left very little to the imagination. She looked at me a couple of times with a smouldering smile. Later in the night (the Kratom may have worn of by this point) she was alone and I did have the opportunity to approach, but I bottled it. I told myself that she was obviously here with rich men (club membership is very expensive and exclusive, I’m unlikely to ever become a member with my current wealth and social standing), and she was far too glamorous to come back to my grotty little studio flat with me for a fuck.

An HB7 in a red dress opened me at around midnight. We chatted for a while. My conversation was good but she seemed to sidestep my attempts to sexualize. I bumped into her again later and chatted, but couldn’t bring myself to escalate for some reason.

I met a blonde HB6 on the dancefloor. After spending 10 minutes grinding against my cock she informed me that she was, “Very married!”. We went upstairs for a flirt and a drink any way. She said her girlfriends knew she was trapped in a loveless, sexless marriage. I kiss closed her and slid my hand under her ass as we’re both sat in the smoking lounge. From there I could finger her a little bit without anyone knowing. She told me she couldn’t fuck me. I sensed she wanted me to drag her home. Since she lived out of town and was staying with friends near London this would mean going back to mine. She was rich (had a property portfolio, her husband ran a successful business), and so the grotty studio flat loomed large in my mind again. I really have a problem going after women I perceive as wealthy. Given the male toilet was single occupancy a toilet pull was viable but I bottled it – never done that before. In hindsight I had nothing to lose by trying. Her friends took her home at around 3am.

I decided to leave, but wanted to number close red dress girl before I left. Luckily she was still there.

“I thought you were having a tumultuous affair with some blonde you met on the dancefloor?”

She’d obviously been watching me

“No we were just dancing, but I would like a tumultuous affair with brunette in a red dress, so I want you to give me your number”.

“You must be drunk. English guys are never this forward”

“I’m probably a bit drunk, but I get told I’m forward when sober as well”

“Why are you?”

“Life’s too short not to get to the point when you know what you want”

“What do you want?”

“Your number”

We’re texting now and I’m setting up a date.

I think the Kratom gave me a bit of a boost at the beginning of the night in terms of sociability, but nothing special. Also some possible side effects.

7th June – Daygame

I took 4g of Borneo Green Vein from Herbal Eye, the same as on the 2nd June. Opened 4 sets in 2 hours. Could have done it quicker but had a long break after the 3rd set. This reached my goal of opening 10 sets this week.

AA was much improved over usual. Vibe was a bit better, but not as good as it was 2nd June. Then I really felt like it didn’t matter if the girl liked me or not. This time I was somewhat disappointed by the weak hooks I was getting. The 4th girl I opened was really hot, and her pissed off attitude threw me.


I made a total of 10 daygame approaches last week. This may not seem like much, but for the same amount of time spent sarging over the previous 10 days I made 2. This also isn’t counting all the sessions I wanted to have, but decided to just go home instead. Kratom obviously isn’t a complete cure to AA, otherwise I would have opened more like 16 – 20 sets in the time I spent on the streets. It does seem to make approaching significantly easier and to raise my vibe slightly. I am going to try out more strains this week. My goal is 15 approaches which I hope to achieve in around 5 hours of sarging. The week after that I will go cold turkey and see if I can still approach whilst not on Kratom. The effects so far are certainly subtle enough to be explained by placebo. The jury’s still out on this one. By the end of the month I will decide whether I wish to continue using it.

2 thoughts on “Sigma Experiments: Kratom – Week 1

    • Will have to run an experiment on that in the future.

      Have you used L-Theanine to decrease your AA? If so do you mind telling me briefly how effective you found it? Did a quick google but didn’t find anything definitive when it came to it’s effects on AA.


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